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I havn't been on the fire for a while but it seems about a year ago that these were a good topic. Was wondering what became of their use in the hunting fields.
The reason it comes up for me is I have a Schultz & Larsen that shoots them quite well. Caliber is a 6.5X55 and it seems to do it's best with the Berger 140 VLD at about 2600 fps. Did anyone use these through the last seasons and how did they do?

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Friend just shot his moose with a 300WSM and 168gr VLD's. you can check out this thread https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbth...owflat/Number/2475961/page/1#Post2475961


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65X54,

There is a thread going at the Long Range forum about this very topic. Very informitive and fun.


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Max,

I used the Berger VLD .264/130 gr last year in my 6.5-'06 on antelope. The antelope was suitably impressed. I think this bullet hits the game harder than is usual for a cup and core design.

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I would agree, heck it should, its an expanding hollowpoint and attempting to dump all its energy into the game.

What I don't get, is how many folks flock to it all of a sudden, maybe since its a berger.... if someone asked if another hollow point should be used...

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Thanks for all of the replies guys!!
I was just curious as about a year ago the vld seemed all the rage and now not much it seems.
I have to confess to being just another rifle looney. I bought this Schultz last spring to use for informal shooting at steel at 300 to 600 yards. Neat rifle as it was built for some Dane rifle team, has a nice heavy straight grained walnut stock built on a typical captured 98 action. It has real nice iron sights similar to Redfields. Never been drilled for a scope and I am not going to be the one that does it. All of the metal is parkerized. Anyway, it's the first 6.5X55 that I have met that is finicky about it's loads. Usually about anything will shoot pretty good in one.
As an example, it doesn't really care for SMK's. That's a new one on me. It shoots them at best about 1 1/4 at 100 yards. Other bullets such as a 140 grain A-max might shoot 2 inches. I've tried all the usuall suspect powders etc with each, just about gave up but thought about the berger. Well, it just plain shoots as long as I keep the speed down a bit.

rost495, that question about another hollow point is what bothers me. I have seen enough dismall events with others that it makes me a bit nervous.

I guess the main thing here is do I have enough velocity to start out with at about 2600 fps at best?? I would not take a shot over 200 yards, the sights are good but I do not want a screwup on a deer. I could probably use a different rifle but just need to use this one at least once. Some here will probably understand alright....

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John B. wrote in his article last year that the Berger VLD holds together for the first 2" of penetration, and then comes apart. He reports a theory that the narrow hollow point and long ogive of the VLD are responsible for that behavior.

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Here's a picture of a antelope I shot a few weeks ago. Was a 115 25 Cal. vld launched at 3225. Range was 498 yards.

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Holy Shee-ite! That bullet ain't screwin' around!

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Is that the entrance hole? If it's an exit, it's the first one I have heard of. My buddy killed his antelope in NM with his 270 WBY and the 140 Berger-bang flop, no exit. Same for another goat with the 300RUM and the 190 VLD. NO EXIT. That is the beauty of these bullets as they don't destroy capes.


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It is a exit hole. A good percentage do not exit though. These bullets seem to enter a few inches and then come apart as Mule deer stated.


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Last year I didn't have an opportunity to try the Berger bullet on a hunt. This year I did:

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They work.

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One of the more impresssive exits I've seen. Steaks, ground, and now.....gravy.

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Originally Posted by dennisinaz
Is that the entrance hole? If it's an exit, it's the first one I have heard of. My buddy killed his antelope in NM with his 270 WBY and the 140 Berger-bang flop, no exit. Same for another goat with the 300RUM and the 190 VLD. NO EXIT. That is the beauty of these bullets as they don't destroy capes.


I had similar performance out of my .280 (140 gr VLD). My son had hit his doe a bit far forward, and just below the spine (not a killing shot). I hit her on the run, through the rear of the liver (technically a gutshot), at 285 yds. That is what my exit looked like.....

Yes, they will exit....

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Recent thread about same topic

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbth...&topic=0&Search=true#Post2502312

You can see the antelope photo that a buddy sent to me. Very similar to the antelope photo shown above in this thread. I haven't used a Berger on game yet, but I bet they shut stuff down quick....


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I've only taken one animal since trying the new .284 140 VLDs. It was a Quartering Antelope buck at 150 yards from a 7RM(MV 3180fps). The entrance and exit was small, the hit was high and took out the bottom of the spine.

Hopefully I'll get a chance to try them on a few whitetails before long.

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Well, I guess I will not be too worried about trying the berger. Really would rather not get quite as impressive an exit as raghorn demonstrated, just an exit would be fine.
I'm still a bit nervous about the results I got using my m1a match rifle once. I was using it's standard fodder (168 smk) and the results were far from exciting.

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Originally Posted by raghorn
It is a exit hole. A good percentage do not exit though. These bullets seem to enter a few inches and then come apart as Mule deer stated.


And the entrance holes typically are very small.

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